http://www.thelivinlowcarbshow.com/shownotes/1384/best-of-2009-encore-week-mark-sisson-episode-320/

http://wholehealthsource.blogspot.com/2008/09/pracical-approach-to-omega-fats.html

I'm sure many of you paleo types out there are familiar with Mark Sisson's blog. His site offers great info on diet, nutrition,and exercise. This is my proof that 1 major paleo proponent on the net still consumes a lot of omega 6's (albeit they are natural sources).
http://i247.photobucket.com/albums/gg158/MDA2008/Picture1-5.png These are the foods Mark ate for a day.
http://i247.photobucket.com/albums/gg158/MDA2008/Picture2-4.png ----- this shows his breakdown of macros.

Notice how his polys are at 6%, not too shabby. However, if you consider the fact that he is consuming 2377 calories, that means he is consuming almost 16 grams of polyunsaturates a day. Looking at what he consumed in the first graph, he is pritty heavy on the omega 6's (using nutritiondata.com): 6oz avocado, 1 oz of almonds, 2 tbsp of olive oil, 3 whole eggs, is 2838mg, 3573mg,2636mg, and 3231mg respectively of omega 6's (with barely any omega 3's from those foods to speak of except for paltry amounts in eggs and olive oil). We are already at ~12,200mg of omega 6. Lets say for arguments sake that the remaining amount of grams of polys are at a 1:1 ratio of 3s to 6s - that would still put him at around ~14,100mg of omega 6 with 1900mg if omega 3 with a ratio of 7.4 to 1. At that kind of ratio, what kind and size of omega 3 supplement would you want to be taking??

Mark, at least to me, seems to be consuming a great diet (lots of whole foods, fresh, and with lots of micronutrients). However, he still consumes a decent amound of omega 6, with a ratio of 7.4 to 1 without the addition of extra omega 3s. Im not saying he doesn't himself bump this up with fish oil or actual fish other days of the week. But the fact remains, he'd have to supplement in the 1000mg range of omega 3s and not 100mg range to get his ratios to desirable levels. This is what I mean by you having to contort your diet to fit some ratio of omega 3 to 6.
http://www.imminst.org/forum/index.php?act=findpost&hl=paleo&pid=286144

Low carb, Moderate protein, high fat diet is the best?! Everyone I know does well on it (as said by another imm member)?! Sorry, I do horribly on those ratios.

I hope to do a post soon on Diet, Antioxidants, HGH, and Supplements. I feel a large portion of even our enlightened audience is duped into thinking the paleo diet maximizes longevity. The Paleo diet helps increase muscle mass and decrease weight which helps with your consitution for any general moment, but the hormonal environment will be a detriment to longevity vs a diet that helps lower internal growth hormones (like lowering IGF-1).

Of course you want to eat unprocessed foods, avoid processed fructose, lower polyunsaturate intake (with balance),and avoid gluten. But a high fat diet is not the only (or best) diet out there.

Problems of a Paleo diet:

1: too much protein; even a moderate paleo diet has protein approaching 100-150g of protein a day. Plus, you can start to alter the bacteria in your stomach towards putrafactive bacteria from fermentative.
2: too much fat; remember the figures of AGEs in foods, cooked animal foods or oils or even certain nuts have lots of these. Fat can also form dangerous compounds in your gut during digestion. I trust that fats I make in my body from carbohydrates won't have this problem.

People who are overweight seem to do extremely well on high protein, low carb diets. This is precisely because they are overweight. Thin people can process carbs well (being insulin sensitive, remember the Kitava?), being thin is the natural state of man. Just as consuming antioxidants are beneficial in diseased type states, but when you are healthy, they might hurt energy production and longevity.

When you eat a Paleo diet, you are really bumping up your hormones. There seems to me to be overwelming evidence that eating a growth producing diet (while it can make you big and strong), hampers maximum longevity. More to come


Alot of what he says is good but I worry about protein intake -- Very often Sisson has suggested protein intakes above 100 grams -- I'm not sure what he has said in the book, but I'm sure it's not too far from that.

Protein is easily the most damaging of the three macronutrients (to overall longevity). (I'm not counting people who overeat sugar)

If you are not eating processed food -- the difference between a well constructed Mediterranean or Okinawan diet will barely be any different than a paleo diet in terms of longevity. And if the paleo diet is heavy protein -- they will die faster.
http://www.imminst.org/forum/index.php?act=findpost&hl=paleo&pid=361592